THIS IS LET'S TALK CINCY, PRESENTED BY WESTERN AND SOUTHERN FINANCIAL GROUP. PUT OUR FINANCIAL STRENGTH BEHIND YOU. HELLO EVERYONE, I'M COURTIS FULLER AND WELCOME TO LET'S TALK CINCY. ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL STORIES IN THE HISTORY OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY STARTED RIGHT HERE IN CINCINNATI. MORE THAN 80 YEARS AGO, THE FOUNDING OF KING RECORDS IN 1943, SYD NATHAN STARTED THE COMPANY THAT CONTINUED UNTIL 1971. THE FORMER HEADQUARTERS IS STILL STANDING, LOCATED AT 1540 BREWSTER AVENUE. IN 2008, THE ROCK DD ROLL HALL OF FAME PLACED A HISTORICAL MARKER AT THE SITE. NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH KING INCLUDE JAMES BROWN, BOOTSY COLLINS, OTIS WILLIAMS, JACKIE WILSON, HANK BALLARD, HENRY GLOVER, PHILLIP PAUL, THE DELMORE BROTHERS, AND SO MANY OTHERS. BREAKING RACIAL BARRIERS FROM BLUEGRASS MUSIC TO R&B AND ROCK AND ROLL. KING IS CREDITED WITH REVOLUTIONIZING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. TODAY ON LET'S TALK CINCY, ONE OF THE EFFORTS TO PRESERVE THE LEGACY HERE NOW IS MY CONVERSATION WITH TWO MEMBERS OF THE KING RECORDS LEGACY FOUNDATION. PATTY COLLINS, THE WIFE OF ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMER BOOTSY COLLINS, AND KEN --, THE SON OF KING RECORDS LEGEND OTIS WILLIAMS OF THE SINGING GROUP THE CHARMS. FROM THE AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF WILD BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH SO MANY GENERATIONS NOW. LIKE WHEN I TALKED TO. KIDS OR COLLEGES OR K THROUGH 12 AND THEY HAVE NO CLUE. FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHO JAMES BROWN IS, BUT THEY HAVE NO CLUE. BUT THE POINT OF IN THE 40S, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMEONE LIKE A SYD NATHAN TO COME. AND THE THING IS, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT CALL HIM A TYRANT. AND ALL THESE OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS. HIS THING WAS MAKE MONEY, PERIOD. WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE THAT MONEY MAKE MONEY. PRE THAT HE HAD, YOU KNOW, RECORD STORES AND PAWN SHOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY. SO WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS OF IT, JUST LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE 40S. SO YOU GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS OF IT. NOWADAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF STRESS, STRAIN, CIVIL RIGHTS AND ALL THESE OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS, AND PEOPLE GET THINGS CONTORTED AND FLIPPED. WHAT THEY THINK, WELL, HE'S THE FIRST PERSON TO INTEGRATE AND BRING EVERYBODY WOMEN, YOU KNOW, WHITE PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE TOGETHER. THIS TRULY HAPPENED. THE PROBLEM IS, IS PEOPLE SKIP PAST. LIKE WHEN I SAY THE TREE IN THE FOREST, THEY SKIP PAST. HOW HE GOT THERE. HE WASN'T TRYING TO DO MORE. SO THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVE, WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO IS IF YOU WOULD WORK FOR THAT NIKOLE WHEN YOU GOT PAID FOR A DOLLAR, GOT PAID A DOLLAR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK FOR THAT NICKEL, FEMALE, MALE, WHATEVER. BECAUSE Y'ALL REMEMBER, THIS IS WARTIME. AT THE SAME TIME, MANY OF THE MEN WERE OUT FIGHTING, SO THEN A LOT OF THE FEMALES, IF THEY WEREN'T WELL OFF, THEY GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE ENDS MEET. SO SID SAW THAT YOU WANT TO WORK. WELL, YOU SHOULD BE MAKING A DOLLAR, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A NICKEL. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A CONSTANT NICKEL. BUT HE HAD ALL THOSE PEOPLE, AND THEN YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE STANDING THERE WORKING TOGETHER. THIS MAN WAS TRYING TO GET TO ONE POINT, BUT SPIRITUALLY, HOW I LOOK AT IT, WHATEVER HE WAS TRYING TO DO, IT WAS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. OF ALL RACES, COLORS, WHATEVER. AND THIS IS IN THE 40S. SO WHEN YOU THINK BACK, WE'RE COMING UP ON 100 YEARS OF THAT SITUATION BEFORE ANYBODY EVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, TO WHERE YOU COULDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT SAYING SOME OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF AND HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE SAME BUILDING, WORKING, DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK. AND HE ENDED UP THE REASON HE STARTED GETTING ALL THESE OTHER LABELS, BETHLEHEM AND DELUXE AND ALL THIS. THERE WAS NOBODY LIKE WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE HAD, YOU KNOW, OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A ZILLIONAIRE. BUT HIS MIND WAS ON THE TREE AND NOT THE FOREST. AND THEN I CAME UP WITH, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. BUT I RECORDED IT ON A DUB RECORD AND THEY HEARD IT, AND IT WAS SO FANTASTIC. THEY ASKED ME TO FLY TO DRIVE TO CINCINNATI. WE DROVE TO CINCINNATI AND WE RECORDED IT. I FEEL GOOD, I. FEEL GOOD. HE GOT THE MESSAGE WHEN I CUT PAPA'S GOT A BRAND NEW BAG. AND FROM THAT TIME ON HE SAID, WHATEVER JAMES BROWN WANT TO DO, I WANT TO RECORD IT. IF HE SAID, I WANT TO RECORD IT. MANY OF THE OTHER RECORD COMPANIES THAT CAME BEHIND THAT WATCHED IT. BERRY GORDY WATCHED THAT. BERRY GORDY AND HIS SISTER WERE SONGWRITERS BACK THEN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN, BUT THEY WATCHED SOMEBODY LIKE HOW SID DID HIS WORK, FIGURED OUT, WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. SO THIS IS HOW YOU END UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE FUNK BROTHERS. HE JUST GOT A BAND THAT COULD PLAY FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHAT BERRY DID. THAT WASN'T WHAT SID WAS DOING. WHOEVER COULD PLAY, YOU MIGHT BE IN THERE PLAYING FOR JAMES BROWN. AND THEN SOMEBODY DOWN THE HALL IS PLAYING POKER. MUSIC DOES DOES DOES. BOOTSY. HOW MUCH DOES HE REFLECT ON THAT WHOLE KING RECORDS ERA? A LOT. YOU KNOW, HE IS IN HIS DNA. HE KNOWS WHERE HE TRULY GOT HIS START. SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WATCH HOW HE'S REACHING BACK FOR YOUTH NOW TO UPLIFT THEM. I MEAN, HE'S CONSTANTLY SCANNING THE INTERNET TO FIND. I'LL CALL THEM PRODIGIES, AND HE'LL CONTACT THEM. NEXT THING I KNOW, THEY'RE RECORDING A SONG TOGETHER. AND SO HE'S REFLECTING A LOT ON WHERE HE WAS AT KING. YOU KNOW, HE'LL SAY I WAS JUST A LITTLE BOY, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED TO MY MOM. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I COULD GET HER OUT OF THE GHETTO, THAT HE WAS SO DRIVEN BY THAT, AND THE FACT THAT HE KEPT GOING BACK TO KING, KNOCKING ON THE DOOR BECAUSE HE KNEW HIS BAND, THE HOUSEGUEST. HE KNEW HE HAD THAT POWER. BACK THEN, I THINK FIRST IT WAS THE PACEMAKERS. HE KNEW THAT HIS BAND COULD PULL IT OFF. I JUST GOT TO GET IN THERE. HE GOT IN BY CHARLES BERLING, OPENING THE DOOR. COME ON IN, YOUNG MAN. SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT. JAMES BROWN HEARD IT. HE BECAME THE STUDIO BAND. AND THEN JAMES FIRED FRED WESLEY. MACEO PARKER, THAT WHOLE CREW. AND COLUMBUS, GEORGIA. AND THEN HE GOT A PHONE CALL FROM BOBBY BYRD, WHO WAS THE FAMOUS FLAMES. AND. SAID. BOOTSY SAID, YOU ARE NOT TELLING ME THAT JAMES BROWN WANTS US. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. HE SAID, MAN, WE'RE COMING TO PICK YOU UP. I'M BRINGING THE LEARJET. AND HE DID. LUNKEN AIRPORT THEY GOT ON IT. THEY FLEW. I'M SO WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY. SO IT'S ALWAYS THERE THAT HE'LL BRING SOMEBODY. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BRING IT OUT OF THEM. LIKE YOU. YOU KNOW. OR ANOTHER INTERVIEW. BUT IT'S ALWAYS AT THE TOP OF THAT INTERVIEW. I'M LIKE, WOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE AT LUDLOW SO WE'RE GOING TO BE AT LUDLOW GARAGE AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON JULY THE 26TH. SO THE FIRST THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WE WILL HAVE A Q&A WITH BOOTSY AND MR. OTIS WILLIAMS. WE'LL HAVE A MODERATOR THERE, AND THAT WILL GO FROM 630 TO ABOUT 715. WE'LL ALSO OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. THAT PIECE OF OUR FUNDRAISER IS A PART OF WHAT WE CALL OUR TABLETOPS. SO WE'RE SELLING 24 TABLE TOPS. AGAIN, ALL THE MONEY GOES TOWARDS OUR KING RECORDS LEGACY FOUNDATION, WHICH AGAIN, WE'RE THE STEWARDS FOR KING RECORDS. SO SOMEONE PURCHASES A TICKET FOR BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT TABLETOP, WHICH IS TABLETOP FOUR SEATS AROUND IT, AND IT IS $400 FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL GET THE Q&A. THEN THE DOOR IS OPEN AT 730, AND THAT'S WHEN ANYONE WHO'S PURCHASED A SEAT, WHICH IS FOR $25 AT LUDLOW GARAGE, THEY GET TO COME IN. SHOW STARTS AT LIKE 755, WHERE KENT AND I WILL TAKE THE STAGE AND WELCOME EVERYONE. WE HAVE SOME AMAZING ARTISTS AND KENT KNOWS BOOTSIE'S HEART WHEN IT COMES TO MUSICIANS. SO THE WAY WE'RE PACKAGING THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS BOOTZILLA RECORDS, WHICH IS BOOTSY COLLINS AND OUR COMPANY PRESENTS THE BOOTZILLA ARTIST FOR THE KING RECORDS FUNDRAISER, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING TO US. SO OUR ARTISTS ARE STARTING WITH ACTION, WHO WILL DO A SONG CALLED FREEDOM? JAMIE FROM ALL FOR ONE, I BELIEVE IS THE GROUP. JAMIE FROM ALL FOR ONE AND BOOTSY PRODUCED A SONG FOR ACTION. SO HE'LL PERFORM THAT ALONG. I THINK CANDACE CHEATHAM, WHO'S ONE OF OUR SINGERS, ALSO WILL BE THERE. THEN FOLLOWING THAT, MANNY PEMBERTON, WHO DOES THIS WONDERFUL MICHAEL JACKSON, JAMES BROWN, LITTLE SET. PLUS HE HAS SOME AWESOME MUSIC THAT HE'S PRODUCING ON HIS BEHALF. WILL BE THERE. THEN THIS JUST LAMB CINCINNATI WE LOVE JUST LAMB. SHE'S COMING TO PERFORM A COUPLE SONGS WHICH IS AWESOME FROM HER LABEL QUEEN CITY IS HER LABEL QUEEN CITY RECORDS. AND THEN OUR HEADLINER IS JULIAN. JULIAN IS FLYING ALL THE WAY HERE WITH HIS BAND FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND HE WAS FEATURED ON THE VOICE AND SNOOP WAS HIS COACH, I BELIEVE, AND STILL IS. SO HE'S OUR HEADLINER. HE'LL DO AN AMAZING 45 MINUTE SET. WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HAVE THE LITTLE PIN UP GIRLS WALKING AROUND WITH THE 50S OUTFITS ON. SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE COMING. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A REALLY FUN NIGHT OF MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT. TALKING ABOUT KING. THERE'LL BE SOME KING TRIVIA, KING MISSION MOMENT MERCHANDISE WITH T SHIRTS. STEP AND REPEAT. ALL KINDS OF GREAT STUFF. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE FUNDRAISER LOOKS LIKE. I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN CELEBRATING, BUT JUST KIND OF A LITTLE UNDERGROUND BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO I BELIEVE NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS PDA WITH OUR CITY AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO BE THE STEWARDS OF THE KING RECORDS LEGACY FROM THE ARTISTS THAT WERE THERE BEFORE US TO MR. OTIS WILLIAMS, GOD BLESS HIM, HE'S STILL WITH US. WE'RE SO THANKFUL TO OUR DEAR MR. PHILLIP PAUL, WHO HAS GONE ON, AND BOOTSY COLLINS AND THEN SO MANY OTHERS THAT WE ARE TO LIFT UP AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. SO, YOU KNOW, TIMING IS EVERYTHING. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROJECT. IT'S AN OLDER SITUATION. 1943, BASICALLY 1971 AS FAR AS KING. AND THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOVE ABOUT THE PROJECT. AND MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. I ALWAYS CALL THIS THE TREE IN THE FOREST SITUATION. I'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS. MY FATHER'S OLDEST WILLIAMS OF THE CHARMS, AND I DIDN'T GROW UP WITH HIM. BUT I WAS MORE INTO TINKERING ELECTRIC ELECTRONICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IN MY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL YEAR, I NEEDED AN ELECTIVE AND IT BECAME MUSIC. SO LONG STORY SHORT, THAT'S HOW I GOT INTO THE WHOLE MUSIC THING AND STARTED TOURING AND BECOMING A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN. BUT I GOT WITH MY FATHER IN 2008, WHICH IS THE REASON I GAVE YOU THAT PREFERENCE OF THAT. AND IN 2008, OF COURSE, I KNEW ABOUT KING RECORDS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. I KNEW WHO MY FATHER WAS AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF. EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T LIVE WITH HIM. KING DID NOT START AS BLACK KING STARTED AS A COUNTRY SITUATION IN THE 40S. MANY PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE I'M THE LEADER OF THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION RIGHT NOW, EITHER I'M DOING IT BECAUSE OF MY FATHER, OR I'M DOING BECAUSE I'M BLACK. I LOVE BONNIE LOU, DELMORE BROTHERS, ALL OF THAT. THESE ARE ALL COUNTRY ACTS. WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, IT'S ONLY 12 NOTES, WHICH IS WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH EVERYBODY. THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S NOT MINE. IT'S NOT MY FATHER'S. YOU KNOW, HE RECORDED THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HE WANTED ME TO SAY. I CALLED HIM YESTERDAY, AND HE'S IN VERY, VERY BAD SHAPE RIGHT NOW. HE'S BEEN IN BAD HEALTH, BUT HIS SPIRIT AND HIS MIND IS GET THIS DONE. WE'VE LOST SO MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS LATELY, AND IT'S A TUG OF WAR. COURTIS FOR US TO DO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT IT'S IT'S A BLESSING TO BE A PART OF THIS TUG OF WAR. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE PUT THIS TYPE OF TIME IN. WE HAVE THE BUILDING, SO IT'S A GOOD GROUND FLOOR TO HAVE. THE BUILDING WAS ALMOST TOWARD TORE DOWN, AND I WAS ON THE THE BEGINNING OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS WHEN I WAS WITH A DIFFERENT BOARD BEFORE WE STARTED THE KING RECORDS LEGACY BOARD. AND I ACTUALLY I HAD THAT'S RIGHT. WHEN I MET WITH MY FATHER, GOT BACK WITH HIM, AND LIKE I SAID, AUGUST WAS TIMING. PERFECT TIMING. BECAUSE THREE WEEKS LATER, THAT BUILDING WOULD HAVE HAD A WRECKING BALL ON IT, WHICH AMAZING. ALL THAT HAPPENED IN THAT SAME LITTLE PERIOD OF A MONTH, BASICALLY. SO THE PRINCIPLE OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, I FEEL WHERE I SIT. I'VE BEEN TASKED BY WHAT WE CALL THE THREE KINGS. ONE HAS SINCE PASSED. MR. PHILIP HALL, MY FATHER AND AND AND BOOTSY COLLINS. SO THAT WAS THE THREE KINGS. SO WE STARTED A LITTLE CAMPAIGN WITH THAT. WITHIN THAT CAMPAIGN, THEY PULLED ME TO THE SIDE OUT OF THE CREW OF WHO WAS THERE AND SAID, YOU NEED TO BE THE ONE. OKAY, I'LL DO THAT. I'LL COMMIT TO IT NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHO SAYS WHAT IN THAT? I HAVE TO DO MY RESEARCH. NOT SO MUCH ON. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE THAT KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT KING RECORDS THAN I DO. I NEVER RECORD IT THERE. I WILL NEVER KID ANYBODY. I MAY AT SOME POINT, BUT I NEVER RECORDED THERE. THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT RECORD IT THERE THAT NEED TO GET THAT STORY TOLD. PART OF WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH, AS I SPEAK WITH OTHERS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF MY BOARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO I HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE BUILDING. BUT SINCE I'M HERE IN CINCINNATI AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY OUR CITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT. I'M LASER FOCUSED ON LET'S GET THE BUILDING BUILT. YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE AN ARCHITECT THAT'S NOW ON BOARD. MR. RYAN NEWMAN, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND DRAW UP PLANS. YOU KNOW, THE DREAM IS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A CAFE, WE'LL HAVE THE MUSEUM PART. WE'LL HAVE A SPACE FOR RECORDING. WE'LL HAVE A SPACE FOR EVENTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND SHOW THAT HISTORICAL PART OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE JAMES BROWN'S DESK WAS. MAYBE WE HAVE THE DESK AS WELL. THIS IS THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE THAT'S STILL THERE, RIGHT? THIS IS WHERE JAMES WENT FROM THE RECORDING TO UP TO HIS OFFICE. NOW SHOWING THOSE BEAUTIFUL THINGS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THAT IT HAS TO HAVE THAT SPACE WHERE YOU CAN MAKE MONEY SO THAT YOU CAN SUSTAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TO GET THE BUILDING INTO A STATUS TO WHERE WE CAN START GETTING TO PHASES. THAT'S 15 TO 20 MILLION. EASY JUST TO DO THAT PART. AND HAVE IT FUNCTIONAL FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND DO THIS OVER HERE. ONE BIG THING, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE STUDIO, THE ACTUAL STUDIO SPACE IS STILL THERE. IT'S LIKE A CHAMBER. SO IT'S ACTUAL SOUND. I'LL SEND YOU SOME STUFF ON AN ARTIST THAT I HAD IN THERE THAT PLAYS DRUMS. SO HE DID THE FUNKY DRUMMER BEAT IN THE SAME SPOT WHERE IT WAS RECORDED WITH HIS DRUMS. AND THEN THERE'S A SONG ON THAT VERY ALBUM. I THINK IT MIGHT BE NUMBER TWO. YEAH. JB TRIBUTE THAT CAME FROM THE KING RECORDS BUILDING. OH YEAH. WOW. THAT'S THE ACTUAL BEAT BEING PLAYED IN THAT BUILDING LATELY. THAT'S ON THAT RECORD. SO I SAY ALL THESE THINGS TO YOU TO SAY THAT WOULD BE OUT OF THE GATE FOR ME, RIGHT? 15, 20 MILLION TO GET IT TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO. BUT THEN THERE'S GROWTH IN IT THAT I NEED THE PUBLIC TO GET INVOLVED IN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, AND IT WILL DEFINITELY GROW. BUT WE GOT PHASES BACK NOW TO THIS PHASE, WHICH IS THIS GET TOGETHER, THE 26TH, 26TH OF JULY. I HAVE TO ASK AND BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT, IS BOOTSY GOING TO PLAY THAT NIGHT? NO, HE'S NOT GOING TO PLAY, BUT HE WILL DO THE Q&A. AND YOU KNOW, THE WAY BOOTSY IS PHRASED HIS CHAPTER RIGHT NOW IN HIS LIFE IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THE NFL PLAYERS RETIRE AND THEY BECOME COACHES AND THAT'S WHO HE IS AT THIS MOMENT. HE'S A COACH FOR UP AND COMING ARTISTS. HE'S EXCITED THAT HIS FANS ARE NOW ACCEPTING HIM, THAT HE'S NOT WITH THE BASS THAT WEIGHED 45 POUNDS AROUND HIS NECK, THE OUTFIT THAT WEIGHED ANOTHER 20 POUNDS. SO IMAGINE THAT HE HAD ARMOR. WE ALL HAVE ARMOR ON TODAY. THANK YOU LORD. BUT THIS STUFF, THIS EQUIPMENT THAT HE OUTFIT, BASS, HEADPHONES, ALL OF THAT. EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, HE CAN PUT THAT DOWN FOR NOW. FINALLY TODAY, AS I MENTIONED AT FINALLY TODAY, AS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF THE PROGRAM, ONE OF THE MOST FAMILIAR NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH KING RECORDS IS JAMES BROWN AND HIS BAND, THE JB'S. ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THAT GROUP IS A MUSIC LEGEND HIMSELF. CINCINNATI'S OWN BOOTSY COLLINS. HERE'S A PORTION OF MY INTERVIEW WITH BOOTSY AS HE SHARED MEMORIES OF JAMES BROWN AND HIS DAYS AT KING RECORDS. WHEN I STARTED DOING RECORDINGS OF THE KING RECORDS, HE STARTED REALLY WANTING TO KNOW WHO WE WERE. HE HEARD ABOUT THESE BROTHERS, THESE TWO COLLINS BROTHERS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HE STARTED TO CHECKING US OUT. WE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS CHECKING US OUT BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. CHARLES SPERLING FROM LINCOLN HEIGHTS, HE WAS THE ONE THAT TOOK US OVER THE KING, RIGHT? YEAH, HE PLAYED WELL. HE PLAYED PIANO AND GUITAR. ARTIE SHERMAN OKAY. HE WAS THE ORGANIST. OKAY. BUT WE DID RECORDS FOR CHARLES, AND WE DID RECORDS FOR ARTIE. WE DID RECORDS FOR BILL DOGGETT. ARTHUR PRYSOCK, YOU KNOW, HANK BALLARD, YOU KNOW. AND SEE, WE WAS DOING ALL OF THAT BEFORE JAMES BROWN REALIZED I NEED THESE BOYS, YOU KNOW? SO. SO WE JUST OVER THERE RECORDING, LEARNING THE PROCESS. AND I'M PUTTING, LIKE, MR. TURNER'S IMPRINT THAT HE HAD ON ME. I'M PUTTING THAT BACK INTO WHAT I'M LEARNING. YOU KNOW, I'M LEARNING FROM THEM NOW. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS WORKING WITH, I'M LEARNING FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO THEM LEARNING FROM ME. I'M LEARNING FROM THEM THAT THAT'S THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS A MUSICIAN, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY. OR ACCOMPANY THE ARTIST, THAT'S THE RECORD IS THEN YOU WON'T GET TOO MANY GIGS. YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO BE A MUSICIAN THAT COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARTISTS WANTED. YOU KNOW? THEN I TRY TO GIVE THEM THAT, AND IF THEY LIKED IT, THEY WENT WITH IT. YOU KNOW, USUALLY THEY WOULD LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WANTED THAT YOUNG ENERGY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD, YOU KNOW, MORE SO THAN THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT I'M PLAYING. YOU KNOW, I JUST PLAYED WHAT I HEARD IN MY HEAD, YOU KNOW, AND 99% OUT OF 100, THEY LIKE WHAT I WAS HEARING. THAT'S THE SAME THING WITH JAMES. YOU KNOW, HE LIKED WHAT I WAS HEARING. BOOTSY STILL HAS A LOT OF THAT YOUNG ENERGY. NEXT WEEK, MY FULL INTERVIEW WITH THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAMER BOOTSY COLLINS. YEAH, LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HIM BEFORE. WELL, THAT DOES IT FOR THE PROGRAM TODAY. THANKS FOR TUNING IN. I'M CURTIS FULLER. I'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF LET'S TALK CINCY. UNTIL THEN, HAVE A GOOD DAY AND A BETTER DAY TOMORROW.